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Post by bill79 on Jul 9, 2007 22:26:00 GMT -5
Hello , My name is Bill, I live up here in Calgary,Alberta,Canada. I own 4 VERSAILLES right now,and a 1979 MONARCH GHIA 4 Dr, My question is in the registry, There was a pic of a 1977 VERSAILLES been parted out,in AURORA,MISSOURI, Vin 7W84H806466. Does anyone know If it exists? It was been parted as of March 2006. I am interested in locating it as it seems to be the right color for some trim parts, I need for a 78 Versailles , I bought a few weeks ago. Can anyone help? Bill 79
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Post by hipogranada on Jul 9, 2007 22:49:37 GMT -5
Bill, have you checked out James Kaster's Versailles site? www.lincolnversailles.comIf the car you mentioned doesn't pan out, James might be able to point you in the right direction. |
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Post by Jeff Roblin on Jul 10, 2007 14:58:02 GMT -5
Welcome, Bill
I think that that Versailles you referenced was on Ebay. Because it was being listed piece by piece, I didn't keep the Ebay auction number for reference to the seller. I doubt if it still exists.
I'd love to add your fleet to the Registry. and would love to see some pics.
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Post by bill79 on Jul 11, 2007 14:03:23 GMT -5
Hi Jeff, Thanks, I am a member of LCOC, So actually my VERSAILLES,serial numbers are already on Your data base. except for the 78,which i got a few weeks back,and of course my 79 MONARCH. I also got a digital camera recently, have to learn to use it so I will try and post pics later, Also later I will send more Info for Your data base later. As for the 77 Versailles, In Aurora, I would not be surprised if it was SCRAPPED by now. Have a GARAGE and BASEMENT full of PARTS, but of course the WRONG INTERIOR COLOR! If anyone knows of a 77 or 78 VERSAILLES ,with a "CORDOVAN" CLOTH INTERIOR, please let me know. Bill 79
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Post by Jeff Roblin on Jul 11, 2007 14:07:54 GMT -5
Last year I bought and resold a '77 Versailles. It had a leather cordovan interior. I don't know what happened to it. It was supposed to be restored in Whitby, ON but it was a bit of basket case. I only paid $500 for it but decided it was too good to be used as a parts car. I originally had bought it for additional accessories for my '76.
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Post by bill79 on Jul 11, 2007 17:45:05 GMT -5
 Jeff , I wonder If You can still find out ,what happened to the car, What I need is for my recently acquired 78 is the SEAT BELT AHCHOR PLASTIC TRIM COVER, and 3 of the 4 LEATHER DOOR ARMRESTS ,had a small hole drilled in it from a previous owner 'DUH"!!!!. And If I am lucky , I would like to find a set of 4 CLOTH door panels, All in the CORDOVAN COLOR. Bill 79
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Post by hipogranada on Jul 11, 2007 18:51:07 GMT -5
Check with James Kaster. He did an interior color change on his '80 Versailles to Cordovan. lincolnversailles.com/restorat.htm Jeff , I wonder If You can still find out ,what happened to the car, What I need is for my recently acquired 78 is the SEAT BELT AHCHOR PLASTIC TRIM COVER, and 3 of the 4 LEATHER DOOR ARMRESTS ,had a small hole drilled in it from a previous owner 'DUH"!!!!. And If I am lucky , I would like to find a set of 4 CLOTH door panels, All in the CORDOVAN COLOR. Bill 79 |
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Post by bill79 on Jul 11, 2007 18:56:09 GMT -5
Thanks, I have seen Pics of James 80 Versailles, His Interior is more 'Brown" , While the Interior for the 77/78 is more of a REDDISH BROWN. Bill79  |
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Post by bill79 on Jul 11, 2007 21:12:32 GMT -5
Actually CORRECTION everyone! The "CORDOVAN" Was and is the same COLOR ,used every Year for the VERSAILLES ,1977 -1980. For the CLOTH, the only DIFFERENCE, is 1980 ,USED a diffrent more luxurious CLOTH, and the armrests,were NOT leather covered anymore, That will expand my possibities,of finding CORDOVAN cloth materials,for the years 77 to 79. This is what hapens sometimes, When all Your VERSAILLES have the SAME colr Interiors, then You get another one with a diffrent color! DUH! to me!!! ;D. Anyways I will CHECK with James, And If anyone does know of a 77-79 VERSAILLES with a CORDOVAN Cloth Interior, please let me know. Thanks, BILL79
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Post by Jeff Roblin on Jul 11, 2007 21:38:09 GMT -5
I've emailed you the information you were looking for.
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Post by jhkaster on Jul 12, 2007 5:52:43 GMT -5
Actually I did do a color match to Cordovan on my car; not brown. But, it probably is a tad "muted" compared to the original shade. Depending on lighting conditions: flash, amount of sunlight, etc., pictures can look more brown or more burgundy with the Cordovan color. That's one of the things I like about the color.
To keep the color consistent throughout my car, I color matched the leather for painting the plastic panels. You can send fabric and material samples to be matched.
I also used leather on everything in the interior; no vinyl. So, the door panels, armrests, all parts of the seats, console, dash are leather. Even the piping on the carpet on the door panels and kick panels are done in leather.
SMS Fabrics has original fabric materials. You may want to contact them for the fabric and take it to an auto upholstery shop to recover your panels.
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Post by bill79 on Jul 12, 2007 22:55:03 GMT -5
James, Thanks for the INFO, If all else fails,and I want a cloth door panel. Its nice to know that the material is available. The only other question probaly is COST. Something tells me the LABOUR,involved might be a very EXPENSIVE venture. And that does not include the material. Dont mind me asking but did You find the LABOUR cost EXPENSIVE? Bill 79 |
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Post by hipogranada on Jul 12, 2007 23:35:04 GMT -5
Original Auto Interiors might be another source for fabric, etc - originalauto.com/Some of the members at americangranada.com have had good luck with Original Auto. |
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Post by jhkaster on Jul 13, 2007 7:18:46 GMT -5
The cost can vary greatly depending on a few factors: - Will you take the door panels in dismounted from the car?
- Will you have the upholstery?
- Do you need to replace the padding sewn behind the material?
- Will you remove the lower carpeting?
I took only the door panels in without the lower carpeting with my leather. They had to remove the window channel molding and door lock ring. They added padding to the leather, sewed the pattern and reattached it all to the door panels while adding back the window channel molding and door lock ring. I took the panels back home, added the carpet, armrests and trim. Then I installed the panels back on the door. But the labor to have them do what they did was $80 per door panel including the padding. |
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Post by pimsil on Jul 13, 2007 12:26:29 GMT -5
Hi Bill 79,...
I'm looking for mounts now for a part of a versailles 78
There are some photos of the part in my photo album.
Mabby you can help me to find the part?
I live in the Netherland and I'm the only one with a Versailles 78.
Thanks anyway.
Pim.
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Jeff , I wonder If You can still find out ,what happened to the car, What I need is for my recently acquired 78 is the SEAT BELT AHCHOR PLASTIC TRIM COVER, and 3 of the 4 LEATHER DOOR ARMRESTS ,had a small hole drilled in it from a previous owner 'DUH"!!!!. And If I am lucky , I would like to find a set of 4 CLOTH door panels, All in the CORDOVAN COLOR. Bill 79
